From: Sam Bauers Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 2:41 AM To: jo.lim@auda.org.au Subject: Public comment - Geographic names restriction .net.au and .com.au Hi Jo, Although it pains me to labour over it again, I welcome the opportunity to comment on the topic of geographic name restrictions in .com.au and .net.au As I have previously commented during the new 2LD proposal process, with the introduction of the geographic 2LDs, I believe that the restriction on the .com.au and .net.au domain spaces should ultimately be lifted. The idea that one or more 2LDs should have their operation impinged upon by the requirements of another 2LD is ludicrous. I don't need to remind the auDA board of this, but the 2LD hierarchy exists so that there is a distinction between entities operating in different 2LDs, with different motives implied by the nature of the 2LD. The fact that "com" stands for commercial seems to be lost on those that claim that the restricted place names would be used for commercial gain. Of course they would be used for commercial gain, that is what the .com.au 2LD is *meant* to be used for. It is more damaging to the general understanding of what domain names symbolise to leave this restriction in place, than it would be to allow commerce to do what it is actually supposed to do within the .com.au space. The key is education about domain name usage. Abstract concepts are not impossible for the public to pick up in general. We understand everything from telephone prefixing systems to media content rating systems. Here's an example (because I like re-stating the obvious): Martin - who lives in Sydney - has two friends, one in Sydney and one in Melbourne. By coincidence they both have the same phone number "9999-1234". When Martin wants to call his friend in Melbourne, what happens? 1. His head explodes. 2. He dials the 8-digit number and repeatedly screams "MELBOURNE MELBOURNE MELBOURNE" until he gets through. 3. He dials the 8-digit number and almost without thinking prefixes the digits "03". Here's another example (this one is a bit racy): Sharon wants to rent a video for her children to watch on a rainy Sunday afternoon, the video store has been very busy and she only has the choice between two videos. They have completely blank sleeves except for the title and the rating. Which video does Sharon choose for her children? 1. The Adventures of Bambi (Rated G) 2. The Adventures of Bambi (Rated R) The geographic name protectionists are shooting themselves in the foot. The point of distinction should not be the third-level place name, the point of distinction should be the 2LD you reside in. By confusing the operation of all 2LDs, the geographic names restriction dilutes the usefulness and understanding of the domain name system. The public can and will understand the logic behind the DNS when it is made clear to them what it's purpose serves. At this stage that purpose is obscured by the current policy. Most of the argument by those wishing to keep the restriction has been rhetorical at best. There are many lofty words about protecting names for the benefit of the community. But there is no evidence presented that those who would seek the .com.au or .net.au names would try to unfairly exploit the name of the community. Nor is there any evidence given on the part of those seeking protection within the .state.au space that they would NOT try to unfairly exploit the name of the community. No evidence that is, except their word as a loose group of un-elected representatives within that community. I have no doubt whatsoever that these groups will in fact give preference to commercial interests and force upon their users (as opposed to their customers) a view biased towards those they favour due to their custom. This makes these entities competitors in a marketplace, rather than benevolent service providers. I think these motives are made all the more clear when they seek protection from the ravages of on open marketplace that they wish to enter. Alison Norris makes an interesting point that unintentionally supports this view. She states that groups she interviewed would rather not go through the process of registering a geographic 2LD if they could avoid it to get the geographic name they wanted. I think it is telling that they do not want to go through the process of becoming legitimately aligned with their communities as per the requirements of the new 2LDs. Further, Alison Norris' comments quite clearly indicate to me that the main interest in the geographic names in .net.au and .com.au would come from the same people who are now generally trying to restrict their release. Would it be too cynical of me to allege that the OCOS proposal was created to circumvent the policy in question, and now that the policy is on it's way out, the OCOS crowd are shouting foul? Yes it would be cynical, but I'm going to say it anyway. Regardless of this, I do support the suggestion that the new 2LDs be allowed to mature for the sake of the .au DNS in general. I fully support the idea of them in principal. Given the rate at which the internet evolves, I think two years from launch is more than enough time for this to occur. So, my opinion is that the restriction be removed at a date to be set no more than 2 years from the launch of the geographic 2LDs and that an information campaign be implemented to ensure that all 2LDs receive adequate exposure to enable their users to ensure their own success. Success that will primarily rely on each users ability to market themselves, regardless of any legislative help they do or do not receive from auDA. Regards Sam Bauers